Comments Received From the Climbing Community |
12 In Favor, 4 Opposed
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This is potentially a great line except for the withdrawn 2d bolt. If the 2d bolt was placed far enough to the left not to impact TBA, I'd whole heartedly support the route. If the 2d bolt cant be placed w/o impacting TBA, I would not be in favor of the route. W/o the 2d bolt, I don't believe the route would be safe or popular and the FHRC process has already turned out too many routes that noone does because of their runout nature to warrant yet another. As proposed, w/o the 2d bolt I have to vote against the route, but if the bolt was added left of TBA I would vote in favor of it. BTW, someone should replace the pins on TBA
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I've visited this area with the applicant and two of the committee members to view the route location. I support the addition of this route and all the bolts, even the withdrawn first bolt. Anyone climbing Tiger Balm Arete would know that that bolt is off route. many other fixed pieces in Eldo are visible from other routes, so that alone is not sufficient arguement against the first bolt. neither is the fact that the bolt is clippable from Tiger Balm. The same situation exists in many places in Eldo, and it is left to the climber's discretion to clip off route gear or not. If Tiger Balm is that dangerous, put the fixed pins back in IT!
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Would be nice to know who the applicant is and if any "cleaning" has been done
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Looks like a nice route
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this would be an excellent addition to the area.
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I see only positives associated with this new proposed route.
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I support this route, but I want to know: Has the bolt on TB Arete been replaced, and, if not, shouldn't it be replaced as part of this process? That is, if new bolts are allowed for this new route, why not replace the old bolt at the same time. Maybe already done, so a moot point.
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Sounds like a good route. Too bad it shares the start with Tiger Balm Arete, but it is hard to find completely independent new lines in Eldo nowadays. I think it would be a nice addition to the climbing on Shirt Tail Peak.
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I think this proposed route (on Shirt Tail Peak) is very worthy, offering good, varied climbing (overhang to slab of continuous difficulty) and excellent position in a remote, less-developed area of the park. I have toproped the line and I am certain that it will not detract from the Tiger Balm Arete route - each route is clearly a distinct line from which straying would be very contrived. With the elimination of the (originally proposed) first bolt, this is in NO WAY a squeeze job and would be a definite addition to Eldorado climbing.
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Agree with FHRC review & recommendations
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Great addition
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At first sight, this route seems to verge on being a variation of Tiger Balm Arete, but on closer inspection has sufficient separation I think. Withdrawing the first bolt and relying on the gear placement is a good idea otherwise the line would impinge on TBA because the bolts would be visible from this line.
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This looks like a great new addition to Eldo. climbing. I see no reason to oppose this new line.
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Tiger Balm Arete is a proud line. Firing in a bunch of bolts next to it, even if it's 10 feet away, is not acceptable. Let's leave it for a toprope for a bold climber to put up on the lead. Sure, not many folks do Tiger Balm, but that's what is cool about it and the many other routes like it in Eldo.
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