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18 In Favor, 2 Opposed
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Another proposal to save a tree. I am for it.
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That's a large tree, with a single rappel. I think that the argument for placing bolts is fairly weak.
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Once again, as with the other two suggested rappel anchor proposal here, I am in favor of not only saving a tree, but replacing a potentially deadly ancor point should a tree fail due to old age, or interminable usage. My only concern over this proposal is to make sure that the two bolts are easily clippable from the existing belay station now located at the tree. While it would be good to locate a rapple point that doubles as a top rpe anchor with a clean running line to the base of the cliff, that location should not be too far to the right (away from the tree) as to make it any issue for someone trying to clip these bolts as either a belay or rappel anchor. That is the climber shold not have to reach ut too far and thus jeapardize their positio at the top of the pitch. i would sacrifice a bit of the "clean running" line to the base for the rappel in light of a safer clipping position a bit closer to the tree. Otherwise, I support the proposal to make safer some of the popluar an d much used rappel points on these oft done climbs. It is typically the less experienced climber who benefits from more stable and safer rappel options on these populra lines.
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I go with yes under duress. While it is good to make climbs safer. It appears that these bolts are in an odd spot not making it any easier. It turns a semi-cozy belay and rap into a trickier one. And it looks like a hanging one. On one pitch I like to sit on top of the rock. Like it says above,the tree is beefy and it's only a pitchh
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i'm always in favor of saving trees and eliminating webbing.
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Please make sure this is not like the Washington Irving anchor which is very difficult for shorter climbers to clip.
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Maybe it's just the photo, but the bolt locations seem strange. I'm all for adding an anchor here, but can we get a better idea of where the bolts will be? I conditionally vote yes.
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I agree with the placing an anchor in order to save the tree and avoid unnecessary trampling of the ground at the top of the route. The photo looks like the bolts are out to the climber's right on the face. I would agree that they should be as far left as possible without making it too difficult to pull the rope and up high enough that they will be above a leader belaying from the ledge. Otherwise people are just gonna use them as a directional and then use the tree for an anchor anyway.
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The bolts ought to be higher and left to approximate the old belay and make it easier to bring up a second.
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I'll have to get up there soon to actually see and test the new bolt location before I comment. The bolts look to be in an awkward spot from the picture. Maybe the question is what type of anchor with respect to sport or trad. Sport is clip and lower then pull or top rope. Trad is clip and bring up the second, then thread and rap. This determines if a free running top rope is in order. I vote free running to make it friendlier for the moderate climber.
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seems like the proposed placement is a little to far out. i vote yes as long as they are closer to the stance.
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WHY ??
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Conditional yes. Please reconsider the location of these bolts. Like many others who commented, I think they look too far to the right.
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Amen to the too-far-to-the-right possibility, and to the comment about accommodating shorter climbers. This is also a neat ledge to perch on and bring up your second. I don't think there's a reason to turn it into a more sport-like experience.
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