Comments Received From the Climbing Community | ||
| 7 In Favor, 5 Opposed | ||
| This certainly looks like a convenience bolt to me. | ||
| Sounds reasonable to me. | ||
| This would seem to be a bolt that does not change the nature of the climb NESSECARILY, in that it does not add gear where there is none. Previously the leader had to belay up top and bring up the second. This could be done from gear and/or the tree to the North. The climber would liekly already be carrying gear, so this is not a hardship, but potentially for the tree. Now ask yourself, does it change the nature of the route POTENTIALLY? Well, it can. It does not decrease the difficulty, but it does allow the climber to "skip" the last 10 or 15' of the route. Seems OK, but potentially violates the concept of leaving the route as it was for the FA or FA intent. The rock is already bolted and these are grey areas. Please consider the above when making your decisions. I prefer my vote to be that whichever supports the will and expressed intent of the FA party. I will vote yes if they do. | ||
| I think this is silly and out of character with similar routes in Eldo. There really isn't any loose rock by the belay. | ||
| I think its a great idea. I know that the first ascentionist completely supports the idea. | ||
| i think this bolt is entirely reasonable; sport climbs typically have a 2-bolt anchor. | ||
| I believe this will add to the quality of the route. Is there something to be gained by scrambling up to the tree, being out of sight of your second, not being able to rap & then walking off in your rock shoes? There's broken rock on EVERY walk off in Eldo, another unecessary risk. I don't see any good reason to continue that. This doesn't change the character or nature of the route in any way, so why not? It will make the route more accessible & therefore more enjoyable. Do it. | ||
| This proposal is well thought-out and consistent with numerous established routes in Eldo. However, placement of the second "bolt" in vertical alignment with the first is not likely to be the best approach for placing a lowering anchor. You might consider replacing the last hanger with a Fixe' Ring Anchor and placing a second one in horizontal alignment six-to-eight inches to either side. Fixe' also now makes a double ring anchor which would facilitate some vertical offset of the second anchor, if that crieria is preferred. Either method would create a sound lowering anchor. Powder coated camo anchors are available. | ||
| Unlike "your mother", this proposed lowering point doesnt really seem like the end of the route. Adding an anchor would be fixing something that works just fine. | ||
| Whats a sport climb without an anchor to toprope with? | ||
| I think it's a great idea. It increases safety for the climbing party and for others in the area. Doing the last 15' to a chossy belay and then walking off in your rock shoes does nothing for the 'experience'. | ||